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只看该作者 40楼 发表于: 2005-02-16
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楼主说的有道理,但制作的设备如果实效发射还应提倡达到必要的标准。
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不仅仅是赞同,而且我觉得还要严谨一点,那个"提倡"是不是应当改成"必须"好些?发射机有国家强制性标准,我们应当遵守.不能因为有人违法犯罪没有被追究或者抓获我们就可以同样去违法犯罪.



不过我感觉,只要diy者有必要的测试手段,楼主的电路实效发射时达到国家强制性标准应当容易做到
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看了楼上的贴在很是有意思!!!
我也在计划复古一次!!功放想用807,用晶体做振荡(在cq杂志比较早的某期登有一个21m,10w的807cw图纸)。接收则打算用大8脚的管子,一是看起来够老,而是座子比较大,焊接加工也相对容易。问题就是找不到有关8脚管子的直放式接收机或再生来复式的图纸!接收用管子不超过3个,想用6sa7,6b8p,6g2p,6sk7等管子,主要是比较容易找价格也便宜。尽量不用小9脚一类的。也可以考虑用外差的工作方式,利用老式电子管收音机的中频变压器如633-1.633-2.312-1.312-2等。可调电容则还是用365的双连。
外观则以老式外观为主,一个四周封闭的底盘,一块正面板,上面装表头旋钮开关等,其余均暴露,要有复古的味道。(很多早期的电台均是这种外观)整个体积不能太大,太高,底盘面积有个14英寸显示器面积就差不多了,高度可根据具体图纸来定。
这个机器要能有点使用价值,不能只做摆设,元器件的选用也可用一些半导体器件,但不能装在外面。
请有这方面图纸的朋友帮忙,本人也可以提供一些相关的老器件。
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感兴趣,顶起来!!!!!!!!!!!!
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好资料,不过电子管现在可难找呀!!!!!!
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从学校的废电子管收音机里拆来了一只6k4Π   一只6a?型号看不清了.能制作发信机吗?请高手提供电路图与管脚图.
谢谢..............
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昨晚实在不好耍,用6n1接成晶体振荡器试了一下,效果良好,还很有意思的,呵呵.我发现里面的线圈参数,电阻大小,屏压大小可以很大幅度的变化,对齐整没有好大的印象的哈,电子管就是安逸哈.发射的时候,屏与栅直接发出淡蓝色的光,连续发射一分钟不放电键,屏就红红的,可能过流了.呵呵
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只看该作者 47楼 发表于: 2005-08-26
上个图片
我做的
正在用的...........小机器
呵呵,效果不错哦
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只看该作者 48楼 发表于: 2005-08-26
用的这个图纸
不全面,是个网友发上来的.....
可以参考一下,这个电路可调整的地方不少.....会发现更多的惊喜
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CW发射机!
关于1-2个管子的cw发射机,我也想了好久了!!!以前一直想找一些资料,可是相关的东西太少了!
要玩的话就玩出格,像hifi烧友一样买国外的茄子管来做!来个半裸的设计我想更有味道。
我也收集到一些资料供大家分享。就是管子不太好找!









80/40 meter cw transmitter with 6bm8/ecl82


this is my own variation of the triode/pentode family of glowbug transmitters. it features a pierce oscillator which runs continously during transmit to avoid chirp. the pa is grid block keyed and since the negative is there, fixed bias. the bias setting is not critical, grid rectification will provide additional bias and form a sort of regulation network. the pa is biased into class c, adjust bias for about -24v at keydown, measured at the junction of the 3 resistors. plate current should be around 35-40 ma when fully loaded, depending on crystal activity. power output is 5 to 8w at 12w input which is a healty 66% efficiency (not counting the screen current) and a nice blue glow comes from the innards following the keying. my original plan was to use a pi-l tank to meet the modern demand of spectral purity but with loaded q higher than normal, not really needed in this power class. the idea with grid blocking was to enable me to use my keyer without any relay in between. it has a negative keying line with a 250v filledstate device behind.

when tuning up, mesh the loading condenser c2 fully and dip the plate with the tuning condenser c1, quickly! plate current should dip down to around 20 ma. unmesh tle loading condenser c2 until the current just stops rising or maximum 40 ma. redip the plate. repeat until the dip is shallow, a few ma. do not tune for maximum output, the pa is not neutralized and will run beyond maximum tube ratings if this is done. if maximum output goes over 9w or loaded plate current over 40 ma, lower the plate supply or back off the grid condenser a little or mesh the loading condenser a little. the plate current should not exceed 40 ma fully loaded (ah, well, the tube is still available from russia :^), maximum allowed cathode current is 50 ma for this tube. i have installed a 100 ma meter in the wire going to the plate of the pa. the glowbug is free from chirp and runs smooth. keyline filtering seems to be unnecessary but check the envelope if you are driving a power amplifier with it. i have found that the grid condenser could be replaced with a 47 pf fixed for ft243 rocks and 15-22 pf for modern tin can rocks.

t/r switch? i use a rotating switch with 3 poles, one for switching the antenna, one for +300v on/off and one for the receiver mute. if you use a regenerative tube receiver, antenna switching isn't really necessary, use a separate short wire as rx antenna or couple lightly to the tx tank. the regen grid leak and coupling condenser should be adjusted for proper recovery between the code elements (full qsk) or perhaps between words. only a simple rocker for the +300v is needed.

spotting? well, my heath sb301 gives this away for free. set the rx in receive mode and engage the t/r switch without keying. you will hear the triode oscillating in the receiver. tune it in and reset the rx in standby mode again. advantage, gridblock!

sidetone? many ideas here. i use my new keyer's sidetone. my previous keyer did not have sidetone, instead i used my ts-830 as a growler, he, he... or use a small 50 ma lamp in series with the pa plate as a sidelight :-), at least at qrs speeds.

circuit layout? not very critical. only one tuned element except the rock is present. as a starter, keep the triode circuit on one side of the tube socket and the pa section on the other. use the middle stud on the tube socket as a common grounding point if there is one. keep the rock at least 2 inches away from the tube envelope to avoid heating it. the schematic does not show the heater, ground one side and decouple the other side at the socket with a 0.01 ceramic condenser. heater voltage is 6.3v. if it exceeds 6.6v when loaded by the tube, add series resistance until below for maximum tube life. my own is built in a aluminum cast box with all circuitry inside it except l1, c2 and the output choke. if you use loads other than 50 ohms, some fiddlin' with the tank may be called for. you can also replace the pi tank with a link coupled parallel tank. for data and pinout on the tube, see ecl82 tube data here.

running rock bound? not easy. you call cq. don't wait on the rock qrg for others unless others knows about you. sometimes you hear another station calling cq near your rock qrg. give him a try, he may hear you. it might be easier to use the qrp qrg 3560 khz. in us, 3579 khz is a common rock qrg. use a 3579r545 khz color burstie rubbed down a tad. in eu at night, most glowbugs seem to stay around 3560-3565 khz.

am? well, i have not tried. you gotta reduce input power a lot. 2-3w carrier output would be appropiate. feed plate and screen through a modulation iron of around 7-8 kohms secondary impedance. avoid am on 80m during dark hours in eu, there ain't room enuff.

a little warning: lethal voltages are present in this circuit. be careful. do not omit the output-to-ground choke. the -100v present at the key is not dangerous if the resistor values in the schematics are used and are of adequate quality and voltage rating.

the circuit could use a 6gw8/ecl86 but the high mu triode section is a tad hard to tame. it requires less bias voltage. i'll try another glowbug with this tube but with a colpitts oscillator instead. stay tuned, i will make a 6gw8/ecl86 bug also, perhaps after i have finished the eurobug (el83+el34).

this glowbug has been on air for some time now and the reports are good, no chirp and no clicks. "very good sound" is the normal report.

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只看该作者 51楼 发表于: 2005-08-26
再来一个图!
2 valve transmitter
by harry lythall - sm0vpo



this transmitter is very stable and will deliver up to seven watts of power with the components and tubes shown. do not be put-off by valves as they are very easy to work with and it seems that there are quite a few valves around. because no-one wants these obsolete things they may be bought for next to nothing at radio rally's. if you are not too particular what type of valve you want then there are lots of valves available.




above is the circuit of the transmitter including the coil winding information. the oscillator is a simple untuned pierce oscillator which will oscillate at the fundamental frequency of the crystal. a 25pf variable capacitor between the grid of the first valve and earth will allow the final frequency to be "pulled" a little but i never used this facility.

the rf choke in the anode of the two valves is made up of 34 turns of enamelled wire wound on a 1/2" ferrite ring (2.2mh). the output tank circuit is wound on a piece of 2" dia plastic conduit tube. the object is to have as many turns of wire in circuit as it is possible to have on the band of interest. the output tuning capacitor should normally be set to about 10% when selecting the tapping for any particular band.

the cathode resistor and 2.2uf capacitor give quite a nice keying envelope to the keyed output. when the key is up (off) there is about 100 volts dc across the 2.2uf so this component must be rated in excess of 100v. because of the high voltage you should not use a cmos keyer circuit without suitable buffering. i obtained my 2.2uf capacitor from an old telephone because they nearly always have a 2.2uf 250v non-electrolytic capacitor somewhere in the circuit.




the chassis is built using aluminium plate, drilled as shown above. an extra hole must be added to pass the connection from the pa anode to the tuning coil. if this connection is made using the output coupling capacitor under the chassis then there will be no high dc voltages above the chassis. the mains input terminals must be suitably protected to prevent contact with the mains input. here is the rear panel of the transmitter. i also mounted sockets for connection to the psu so that the finished transmitter is also a high voltage psu for other projects.




the front panel is very uncluttered having only two controls; band switch and tune. i also added two switches, one to switch on the psu ht and the other to key the tx for tuning purposes.




the oscillator is un-tuned so the only tuning procedure required is to select the band (coil tapping) and peak it for maximum rf output. the valves used were selected because they had b7g bases and were the first i put my hand on when i reached into my junk-box. virtually any pentode valves will work in this application. an el84, for example, will deliver over ten watts in this circuit but the valves quoted will deliver seven watts from 3.5 to 30 mhz. if you should use another tube then don't forget to check the screen voltage. if it is less than 250v then you will need a resistor in the screen supply to the valve.




the output tank coil should be built as shown. i only needed 40 turns on this one but on an earlier version i used a slightly smaller diameter tube and needed 58 turns (3.5mhz). leave space for 65 turns (3.5mhz) then remove turns to achieve the lowest frequency you want to use. adjust the tappings so that you achieve full power on each band with only 10% of the tuning capacitance in circuit. the coil can be easily tapped by masking adjacent turns with tape then scraping and soldering as shown in the photograph. if you want to add more turns to support the 1.8mhz band then you could either use the full 100 turns or add another (smaller) coil in series with the main coil.

have fun, de harry, lunda, sweden.


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这个小机器如何????
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n5ese's
"altoobs"
2-tube 40 meter cw transmitter


(click on any picture to see larger version)


note: 'n5fc' is my former call.
this project was constructed while that call was valid, and you may observe references to it.

my homebrew projects tend to progress in stages, spread over time. this one was certainly an example of that process. being enamored of projects built into the ubiquitous altoids tin, i decided i wanted to see if i could package a two-tube crystal-controlled transmitter onto one of these boxes. i began thinking about it about 3 years prior, sketched out a paper design six months later, acquired tubes about a year ago, and finally put solder to it last month. i decided to name it "altoobs", a play on the tradename "altoids".

as you can see from the schematic below, there is nothing unique about the circuitry in this two-tube 40-mter crystal-controlled transmitter. in fact, it's fairly "cookbook", using a pentode-based colpitts crystal oscillator, followed by a beam-power-pentode final amplifier with pi-output network, all cathode-keyed.



(click on above image to see larger image with component details)

we selected a 12by7 as the oscillator tube. the functional characteristics of the 9-pin miniature 12by7 are nearly identical to the old metal 6ag7 which was popularly used as a crystal oscillator in 50's and 60's novice transmitters. to keep things small, we use a 7.040 mhz crystal in a modern hc-49 holder. this was also the reason we used a separate oscillator and amplifier. the oscillator would not have to run so much current (to deliver power to an antenna load), and so we stand less chance of damaging our crystal (modern crystals are smaller and more susceptable to damage by excess current than ye oldf ft-243's).

we departed conventional wisdom in selecting a final amplifier, because almost all the popularly-used tubes required plate and screen voltages of 250 v or more (usually. more). the 7551 was a special-purpose vhf class-c amplifier tube, most often used in industrial/police service in commercial mobile radio gear in the 60's. packaged in a 9-pin minature tube, it was capable of 10 watts output at 30 mhz, with 250 v plate supply, and has a 12.6 v filament. [fwiw, the 7558 is an identical tube with 6.3 v filament, and can do the same job]. we designed our output circuit for a plate impedance of 3000-ohms, transforming 3000-ohms to 50 at the antenna port. at 150 volts of b+, then, we might expect a plate current of about 25 ma, and a dc power input of 3.75 watts, nominally. with a projected efficiency of 60%, we should manage something around 2 watts output. the 7551 is not actally characterized for operation at less than 250 v plate and screen, but it's plate curves show significant plate current at 150 volts and lower, so we will assume it will do something useful with a 150 volt supply. by the way, we could get a full qrp gallon (5 watts) by running a plate voltage of 225 vdc, but we'll forego the extra power in deference to simplicity, compactness, and reduced stress on the components.

to reduce component count and eliminate one power supply voltage, we opted to use cathode keying. with a grid cutoff voltage of somewhere around 20-25 volts, and total (v1 + v2) cathode currents of less than 50 or 60 ma, we should even be able to use our modern solid-state keyer.

in order to package all this circuitry (sans the tubes) into an altoids box, we needed to deviate from traditional tube construction protocols. first, we decided to use toroid cores instead of air-wound coils in all tuned circuits, as air-wound coils are just too big. and instead of the classic pi-net with variable capacitors for tuning and loading, we decided on a fixed-loaded pi-net, designed to load a 50-ohm antenna. this is quite reasonable in this day and time when almost all solid-state rigs are designed for fixed 50-ohm outputs. if we need further matching, we'll accomplish that with an external antenna tuner. in lieu of meters for plate current indicators, we decided to try leds, which are considerably more compact. finally, in an effort to keep components small, we'll plan for a plate voltage of 150 v. this means we can use regular 1/4 watt resistors, and small-package capacitors. the lower b+ voltage means our final won't put out quite as much power as the tube is capable of, but if we can get 2 watts out, we'll be happy. of course, the lower plate voltage also simplifies power supply design, keeping the cost and size of that to a minimum. [you can see our power supply -here-]

a printed circuit was used to mount circuitry. i prefer the old "cut-and-peel" method, utilizing a hobby knife to remove unwanted copper and form islands.


caution! when using a hobby knife, always wear safety goggles!
we used a double-sided board, cut to "just fit" inside the altoids tin. we used the bottom side as ground plane, and drilled holes as required. we obtained pc-mount 9-pin ceramic sockets, mounting them through the board, and soldering the pins on both sides. components were mounted "surface mount" style, on the top of the board, which is also the circuit-side. this board ain't pretty, but it does the job:



(click on either image above to see a larger version)

below is a picture of the pcb, populated:



(click on the image above to see a larger, annotated version)

from the picture, you'll notice a few unusual things. the toroidal cores are wound with kynar-insulated wire-wrap wire. enameled wire probably should not be used, because the insulation will likely breakdown between the core and the wire. also, the large red led, rated at 60 ma, was intended to be a plate current indicator for the final amplifier. i say intended because although it works, it's very hard to quantify the current. we kept it because it makes a cool blinking light as you key, and is a good confidence indicator for plate current. the smaller led, rated at 20 ma, performs the same function for the plate circuit of the oscillator.

notice that there are three variable capacitors, of the 8 mm poly-insulated trimmer type. the one nearest the crystal allows the crystal frequency to be adjusted somewhat. adjust this one for minimum chirp and drift (there won't be much, regardless of setting).. the other two adjust the final amplifier's grid and plate tanks, respectively.

the completed pcb is mounted inside the altoids box using three 1/4" high aluminum spacers and appropriate hardware. b+ voltage and filament voltage are brought into the box through rubber grommets in the lower back (behind the cover hinge), via pigtails that connect to binding posts on the power supply.. shorter pigtails, terminated with an appropriate connector, provide for antenna connection and key line input. holes are drilled in the hinged cover of the altoids box to allow for mounting of the two tubes, for access to the trimmer capacitors, and to allow the leds to been seen. here's a picture with the cover open (with an output older filter section in it):



we fabricated a label for the cover, which you can (mostly) see below:



(click on the image above to see a larger, annotated version)

below is a picture showing a complete working setup. the gray box on the left is our homebrew 145 v regulated power supply, which also supplies the 12 v filament voltage. in spite of being fairly compact, the power supply, with it's two transformers, is considerably larger and heavier than the transmitter. the antenna cable, which exits the altoobs chassis on the lower left, is connected to our homebrew dummy load. and a j-38 keys our transmitter. by the way, i was also able to directly key the altoobs using our homebrew cmos keyer and the k1el keyboard.




(click on the image above to see a larger, annotated version)

for those who might want to duplicate the altoobs, please refer -here- for additional construction and tune-up notes, in an acrobat-format (.pdf) printable file.

our first qso with the altoobs, yielded a distance of 817 miles (austin, tx to atlanta, ga), a 549 report, and a good 35 minute ragchew with with jim, ad4j.

enjoy, good luck, and 73!
monty n5ese


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还有几个图!
再来图片!
估计做这个成功的几率比较大!
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加我的QQ吧,我传给你图纸
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复古老式cw发射机,我感觉还式装大八脚管子的要美观些,也有味道。焊接没有花生管那么麻烦,下面给大家上一个老外做的一个6p6p的cw发射机!
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再来一个图!还有很详细的制作方法!

用了两只6sk7,和一只6v6,普通收音机的管子,装了个收发机!还是多波段的!
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我感觉我已经找电子管的cw图纸已经找疯了!!!有时间一定要亲手做一个!!!!无论成功与否!!!

看来很多国外火腿网站,发现他们的设备并不像我们想象的那样高科技,很多都是用的老式设备,即使有些商品收发机也不是很新款(或许有钱的我没有看到)。他们更热衷于自己动手,最大化利用目前拥有的设备和附件(所以看上去有些东西都有些土气)。

唉!现在真正玩diy和探讨技术的都少了!(比例上来看)现在坛子里的讨论也少了。人气啊!!!!!回来吧!!!


谁能发贴把这些潜水艇高手都炸出来吧!!!!!