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向大家调查对1/2GP的需求,4Band或COPY-R8 [复制链接]

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离线BD4NU
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只看该作者 40楼 发表于: 2007-11-09
1/2gp有多长? 我想架在砖头垒的烟囱上 不知道风阻有多大?
离线xuhh
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只看该作者 41楼 发表于: 2007-11-12
顶起来,还是支持1/2的gp
离线BD4QA2920
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只看该作者 42楼 发表于: 2007-11-12
不知啥时候开工,性价比好的话,我想要的人很多
离线BD5DKK
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只看该作者 43楼 发表于: 2007-11-15
还是copyr8好 4 波段太少了
离线gjc
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只看该作者 44楼 发表于: 2007-12-06
朋友们继续!
离线BG1SIY
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只看该作者 45楼 发表于: 2007-12-06
还做吗?做我来一根
离线gjc
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只看该作者 46楼 发表于: 2007-12-14
仿r8怎么没有下文了??
离线bd2fw
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只看该作者 47楼 发表于: 2007-12-14
哪个都行,赶紧出货吧。
离线bd2bh
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只看该作者 48楼 发表于: 2007-12-27
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哪个都行,赶紧出货吧。
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hihi,出货加之有了r8不出来还有什么意义啊,哈哈,开个玩笑。

r8技术指标:

r8 specifications
frequency: 6, 10, 12, 15, 17, 20, 30 and 40 meters ----(8个波段)
gain: 3 dbi (增益3dbi)
power:1500 watts cw ----(承受功率1500w)
vswr resonance: 1.3:1 typical----(驻波1.3:1)
vertical radiation angle: 16 ----(发射仰角16度)
horizontal radiation angle: 360 ----(方位,360度)
connector: uhf
height: 28.5 feet (6.7 m)----(天线高度6.7米)
weight: 23 lbs (10.5 kg) ----(重量10.5公斤)
wind survival: 80 mph ----抗风压80米/小时

上述不含80米kit
离线BG4CTL
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只看该作者 49楼 发表于: 2008-01-02
1/2波长天线仍需配4-6根至少1/8波长的地网条才能很好谐振。r8主振子还得有2个近似顶部加载的线圈以缩短其长度(尽管已近7米)。加载线圈在天线理论中据说只对下部的振子起作用,故r8将其尽可能加高以改善发射效果。这是设计自制各类gp中应适当考虑的一方面。
离线bg7ihm
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只看该作者 50楼 发表于: 2008-01-03
r8 specifications
frequency, meters 6,10,12,15,17,20,30,40
gain, dbi 3
vswr 2:1 bandwidth, khz  
40m (150)
30m (>50)
20m (>350)
17m (>100)
15m (>450)
12m (>100)
10m (>1500)
6m (>1500)
vswr at resonance (typical) 1.3:1
power rating, watts cw   1500
vertical radiation angle, deg. 16
horizontal rad, deg.360
height, ft(m)28.5 max. (8.7)
wind survival   80 mph
weight, lb. (kg) 23 (10.5)
这是我2008年diy首选   (copy r8)但r8总长8.7米啊,不是6.7米
离线BG7AQD
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只看该作者 51楼 发表于: 2008-01-03
r8喜欢的人很多,但真正做出来会买的人会有多少?请楼主慎思之!
——毕竟这个比4band要复杂得多、成本也会高很多,售价自然就不会很低;我估计将超出大多数“贫下中农”的承受能力。

呵呵,多嘴了~~~:-)
离线bg7ihm
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只看该作者 52楼 发表于: 2008-01-03
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r8喜欢的人很多,但真正做出来会买的人会有多少?请楼主慎思之!
——毕竟这个比4band要复杂得多、成本也会高很多,售价自然就不会很低;我估计将超出大多数“贫下中农”的承受能力。
呵呵,多嘴了~~~:-)
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就是这基本问题,另我迟迟都没有去做,不然早就见到样了,多谢
离线bd2bh
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只看该作者 53楼 发表于: 2008-01-03
[quote=老干部]gap的titan也很优秀的,就是内部连线有点烦。[/quote]

同感,我关注gap titan dx 8波段天线很长时间了,因为这款天线为中部馈电的垂直d.p天线,其噪音较小、增益,发射仰角都非常适合做dx,网上好评如潮,垂直天线中效率最高的天线之一。

8 band multiband dx antenna

technical specifications :
+ bands: 10, 12, 15, 17, 20, 30, 40 and 100 khz on 80 meters
+ counterpoise: 4 rigid counterpoises 80 inches long each
+ mount: all hardware supplied except the 1.25 inch o.d. steel mast
+ ground area required: none
+ connector: uhf (so239)
+ height: 25 feet-- 7.6m
+ weight: 25 pounds

网上1/4,1/2仿制的天线太多了,还是看看gap titan dx 垂直d.p如何吧,大家一定会心动的。看看谁能研究一下其构造如何,结构原理等,以便大家制作。我只看懂了8个波段中2-4个波段。其中部分用的是同轴电缆缩短的方式。gap不像其他公司一样,保密工作做得很好,没有透露各个波段的工作原理及内部馈电方式,资料难的公开。

gap titan 主要特点:

gap antennas elevate the feed point. advantage of the elevated feed point design:

1.radiation resistance increases as the feed point is elevated. if the proper elevation is selected, the radiation resistance will be 50 ohms - a perfect match to the feedline.

2.elevating the feed point also virtually eliminated the earth loss. the gap antenna has an antenna resistance of 50 ohms and an earth loss of 5 ohms. this efficiency of approximately 90% creates an antenna with very little loss; if we take the above example 90 watts from 100 watts input will be radiated. the hot spot marking the maximum antenna current is now located close to the antenna center section instead of being close to the earth. result: the rf is radiated rather than used to warming the ground.

3.the resulting antenna gain for low take-off angles increases.
gap antennas feature a high efficiency:

4.no earth loss
5.no loss in traps or transformers
6.the entire length of the antenna contributes to rf radiation. trapped antennas contribute only with a part of their mechanical length to radiating on the higher bands.

7.there are no traps in a gap antenna, no coils nor transformer.

here are five reasons to avoid traps:
##when not installed properly traps may be prone to take on water
##the coil portion of the trap changes its value as of function of temperature shifting the operating frequency of the antenna.
##a trap is a coil capacitor that operates at high voltage; high voltage in a moist environment is prone to arc and self destruction.
##a trap must have a high 'q' to perform efficiently; a high 'q' will result in a narrow band width and restrict the antennas band width.
##finally, as everyone knows, traps are lossey; they steel transmitter power.

8.gap antennas don't require tuning.

there is absolutely nothing for you to tune.... in fact, as trip after trip to readjust the antenna on the roof or on the mast raises your frustration level and you may loose your "cool"... all gap antennas come completely electronically pretuned from the factory.

9.gap antennas have a high band width.
with only a few exceptions the gap antennas cover all ham bands featuring a swr of <2:1.

10.quiet - please.
noise is an unwanted companion of verticals - particularly on the low bands. all gap verticals are"quiet" antennas primarily due to a sleeved feedline and the use of a counterpoise. gap antennas eliminate the deployment of thousands of feet of radial wires "parallel to" the ac power lines which transfer power line noise.

11.gap antennas are easily installed.
just screw the nuts and bolt into the pre-drilled holes with the provided tool!

12.gap antennas are built to last

all weather performance should be important to you. simplicity and a minimal parts count are the key elements to reliability. consider the elements of the gap antenna - aluminum tubes and coax. nothing else! compare that to other antennas with a multitude of connections, coils, variable capacitors, transformers, etc. and you'll see that for everyday operation in rain, sun, ice or snow - gap works. gap antennas use double-drawn aluminum tubing. each section telescopes perfectly into the adjacent and is secured with screws. the hardware is stainless steel. the coax used is a special non-contaminating high temperature type to provide added safety for high power operation.


http://www.gapantenna.com/images/titanfig1.gif

离线bg7ihm
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只看该作者 54楼 发表于: 2008-01-06
楼上这款天线没考虑过,也不懂
离线bg3bgx
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只看该作者 55楼 发表于: 2008-01-07
7/14/21最实用...........ok
离线BA3EO
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只看该作者 56楼 发表于: 2008-01-08
copy r8,怎么也是专业厂家设计出来的,比自己设计的强多了。
离线BD7APC
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只看该作者 57楼 发表于: 2008-01-29
定一根四波段的就行了有了短消息给我
离线西部大漠
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只看该作者 58楼 发表于: 2008-01-31
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如果是我自己用的话,7/14/21mhz三个波段就比较实用,这三个波段的叫通率也高一些......
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同意
离线BG4JZY
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只看该作者 59楼 发表于: 2008-02-09
个人更倾向与copy r8,因为我的楼顶架设条件限制,r8更适合我自己的情况。