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离线BA7NO
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只看该作者 20楼 发表于: 2007-08-03
比较赞赏bg1pmn的下面一句话:
"别人先给我寄卡是我的荣幸,回卡是我的义务."
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只看该作者 21楼 发表于: 2007-08-03
[quote=bg7 msn]比较赞赏bg1pmn的下面一句话:
"别人先给我寄卡是我的荣幸,回卡是我的义务."[/quote]
我也赞赏!!!
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只看该作者 22楼 发表于: 2007-08-03
[quote=bg7 msn]比较赞赏bg1pmn的下面一句话:
"别人先给我寄卡是我的荣幸,回卡是我的义务."[/quote]

when the time you have hundreds of “honor”, cards without sae and return postage, do you think it is still “honor” for me, definitely not.

once again, it is the rule of the game.

1) from buro = return to buro

2) direct without sae and postage = return to buro

3) direct with proper sae and return postage = return direct
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只看该作者 23楼 发表于: 2007-08-03
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when the time you have hundreds of “honor”, cards without sae and return postage, do you think it is still “honor” for me, definitely not.
once again, it is the rule of the game.
1) from buro = return to buro
2) direct without sae and postage = return to buro
3) direct with proper sae and return postage = return direct
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我晕! 看了大半小时才看明白,上面的话并不针对任何人.每个人的看法及观点不同.我也同意你的游戏规则.无论是buro还是directly,主要是有回卡就行了.不像有些给了贴好邮票回邮信封的都不见踪影.
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只看该作者 24楼 发表于: 2007-08-03
vr2xmt给我的回卡很快就收到了,借个地方告知一下。
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只看该作者 25楼 发表于: 2007-08-03
'

1) from buro = return to buro
2) direct without sae and postage = return to buro
3) direct with proper sae and return postage = return direct
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国际上大部分的dxer都是这样的回卡标准。

对于第三点,甚至有的人对于proper的做法是(可能就是nq说的1 irc不够国际邮资的):
sae+1 irc/gs = buro
sae+2 irc/gs = direct

俺对于国际卡和港澳台地区卡一般是 sae+1 irc/gs = direct
对于国内大陆地区卡一般都是direct。

总之,卡最终都会回的...,别担心。
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只看该作者 26楼 发表于: 2007-08-03
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once again, it is the rule of the game.
1) from buro = return to buro
2) direct without sae and postage = return to buro
3) direct with proper sae and return postage = return direct
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我也是按上面这个原则处理卡片的。
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只看该作者 27楼 发表于: 2007-08-04
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when the time you have hundreds of “honor”, cards without sae and return postage, do you think it is still “honor” for me, definitely not.
once again, it is the rule of the game.
1) from buro = return to buro
2) direct without sae and postage = return to buro
3) direct with proper sae and return postage = return direct
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同意charlie的处理方法,我也是这样处理的.如果每张direct来没有信封和irc费用真的不少.
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只看该作者 28楼 发表于: 2007-08-04
[quote=bg7 msn]比较赞赏bg1pmn的下面一句话:
"别人先给我寄卡是我的荣幸,回卡是我的义务."[/quote]

赞同pmn的观点,同时也恭喜pmn的到那么多回卡!!!
下次见面,pmn该请客了啊!
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只看该作者 29楼 发表于: 2007-08-04
i collected 52 “honor” from the post office box today.

42 “honor” matched with rule number 3, so will return direct.

for the rest,
1 “honor” from ua
2 “honor” from yb
7 “honor” from by,

which are not match the rule, will return to buro.

very interesting that 42 “honor” not include any by.

is this the “norm / general practice” for the majority hams in by???
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只看该作者 30楼 发表于: 2007-08-04
dear charlie,

will ham in hong kong include sase when they send you qsl cards? if yes, what's the percentage?

thanks and 73!

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i collected 52 “honor” from the post office box today.
42 “honor” matched with rule number 3, so will return direct.
for the rest,
1 “honor” from ua
2 “honor” from yb
7 “honor” from by,
which are not match the rule, will return to buro.
very interesting that 42 “honor” not include any by.
is this the “norm / general practice” for the majority hams in by???
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只看该作者 31楼 发表于: 2007-08-04
我有好几个香港ham的卡片一直都未交换,看看收够10个卡片,换张火花奖状都好啊。这样的话,大陆、台湾、香港的奖状都有了。澳门的无线电组织有没有发奖状的?

在我的电台日志里记录,曾经和vr2xmt在2004年9月5日通联过。准备给charlie一个带标准sase的“honor”,到时候希望charlie能回我一个“honor”,那我就觉得好honor了

现在从香港寄卡片到广州要多大面值的邮票呀?好像曾经收到过是2.5港元。想找8张香港邮票,有没ham顺便而又方便代购呢?求助啊。算起来香港回归都十周年了,都没去过一趟香港。
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只看该作者 32楼 发表于: 2007-08-04
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dear charlie,
will ham in hong kong include sase when they send you qsl cards? if yes, what's the percentage?
thanks and 73!
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hong kong amateur radio transmitting society (harts) has a reliable qsl service that we can exchange qsl cards, either local or dx. local hams meet each month and collect their own cards. at least for me, no need to send direct for vr2 cards.  

however, as a matter of courtesy to secure a card from the other end, sae and return postage is recommended, no matter it is local or dx.

hope this answers your concern.
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只看该作者 33楼 发表于: 2007-08-04
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我有好几个香港ham的卡片一直都未交换,看看收够10个卡片,换张火花奖状都好啊。这样的话,大陆、台湾、香港的奖状都有了。澳门的无线电组织有没有发奖状的?
在我的电台日志里记录,曾经和vr2xmt在2004年9月5日通联过。准备给charlie一个带标准sase的“honor”,到时候希望charlie能回我一个“honor”,那我就觉得好honor了 [表情]
现在从香港寄卡片到广州要多大面值的邮票呀?好像曾经收到过是2.5港元。想找8张香港邮票,有没ham顺便而又方便代购呢?求助啊。算起来香港回归都十周年了,都没去过一趟香港。
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great.
look forward to receive your "standard honer"

73 and gd dx
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只看该作者 34楼 发表于: 2007-08-05
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i collected 52 “honor” from the post office box today.
42 “honor” matched with rule number 3, so will return direct.
for the rest,
1 “honor” from ua
2 “honor” from yb
7 “honor” from by,
which are not match the rule, will return to buro.
very interesting that 42 “honor” not include any by.
is this the “norm / general practice” for the majority hams in by???
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港、澳、台和by都是一家人,我想可能大家都没当外人,所以就都......我也曾收到过一家人的没有附和习惯的卡片,还好数量还不多,就都直接回了。要是家里人多了,回起来也确实不容易。

另外高兴的就是从我现在收到by卡片来看,已经有越来越多的朋友加上了带回邮资的、写好回信地址的信封了。
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只看该作者 35楼 发表于: 2007-08-06
惭愧,给港、奥、台朋友邮寄卡片从来么有贴过邮资及信封!
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只看该作者 36楼 发表于: 2007-08-07
i read this from the message post by bd4ji in this bbs, title "so you want to be a dxer ? "

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22. qsling sucks. filling out 1,000s of cards every year just because you happen to live in burkina faso is no fun. hell, living in burkina faso may be no fun. qsl cards cost money and the dx operator may be more concerned with feeding his family than buying a qsl card for your collection. send a sase, some greenstamps, whatever makes it easier. don't just slap a stamp on a qsl and mail it like a postcard. they get tore up, marked up, smeared etc by postal machinery especially if forwarded to another address. put it in an envelope with an sase. if you are in the u.s. put "u.s.a." on your sase. georgia is not just a state, it is a country too...and rhode island may just end up in greece, so just put "u.s.a." on your sase and make it easier for delivery. remember, some countries have trouble with postal theft so don't immediately assume you didn't get your card because the dx operator is a thief. if the qsl is the last courtesy of the qso then your last courtesy should be to send an sase with appropriate funds. (this is true for both domestic and dx qsling.) if you think qsling is easy, volunteer to become a manager.

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只看该作者 37楼 发表于: 2010-08-20
以下观点,纯属个人意见

★★发卡出于责任,收卡源于信心
http://www.hellocq.net/forum/showthread-t-242416.★★发卡出于责任,收卡源于信心.html
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只看该作者 38楼 发表于: 2010-08-21
昨天18.133听到vr2xmt了
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只看该作者 39楼 发表于: 2010-08-21
vr2xmt 您好!您的回卡我已经收到!谢谢!