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Reducing EMI in RTL SDR
Many people have noticed that even if there is not an antenna connected to the RTL SDR. FM Stations still come strong. This is not good at all because these are signals that are getting into the PCB via another way that is not the antenna. The most common tips for reducing EMI that are over the Internet for the RTL SDR is to use shielded USB cables, ferrite beads and a metal box. I was already using a shielded USB extension cable, and I mounted a ferrite bead near the RTL SDR. (At least 2 are recommended but I was just able to get one) The problem is that the USB cable is going to act as an antenna.

I also put aluminum foil inside the RTL SDR and it was touching the USB chassis ground. It seemed to help a bit but there was still a lot of noise. Any local FM station still goes through adjusting the gain. Near my home is a local FM transmitter that has always caused me problems, especially because I listen to air band. I use an AOF-128 bandpass filter and a coax stub filter and this still is not enough to attenuate completely the signal while listening with my PRO-95 scanner, so you can imagine how critical for me is reducing EMI in the RTL SDR for good performance.

I started to read about the USB specs and tips for reducing EMI while designing USB devices. There is a lot of information and different opinion about this. In general what I found out is that the shield on a USB cable is soldered with the male USB connector (in the host) but on the device is not but here comes the most important thing I found out. If in the USB device, the chassis is connected to ground, it is to a different ground, and not the ground to the PCB (To the chassis for example) or some designs have two grounds on the same PCB. Because that’s where it’s going to get the noise if the USB cable shield is connected to the USB chassis, so what I did on the RTL SDR, it’s to remove the male USB connector, and solder a cable with a male USB connector, and just solder the 4 cables (signal and power) and leave the shield floating. Then, where I cut the cable I put aluminum foil and then covered it with electrical tape.

This really reduced the FM broadcast interference. Even if the gain is set to maximum on the RTL SDR, the only station that comes some noise is the one that is my neighbor, but it’s really nothing to what was there before. I think if I got more ferrite beads and mounted the RTL inside a box it would be totally quiet.

Hope this can help other people and I would love to hear comments.
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数字地和模拟地要断开?
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    节译:仅供参考!

    我开始阅读人们设计USB设备时,为减少电磁干扰,所涉及到的USB规格和技巧。对此问题,存在大量的信息和不同意见。通常,我发现的情况是:USB电缆的屏蔽层与USB插头(连主机端)是焊接在一起的,但在设备上却不是这样——最重要的发现就在这里!如果在该USB设备中,机箱连接到地,但该地却去到不同的地,而且不是到PCB地(例如机箱),或者同一PCB上设计有两个地。由于USB电缆的屏蔽层连接到USB机箱,而那里正是带来噪音的地方。所以在RTL SDR上,我要做的就是移除USB插头,焊接一条带电缆的USB插头,注意只焊接4条电缆(信号线和电源线),让屏蔽层浮地。然后,在切开电缆的地方剪块铝箔包上,再缠上电工胶带。

    这确实减少了FM广播的干扰,即使把RTL SDR的增益设置为最大值,唯一带来一些噪音的电台就是那个我旁边的FM发射塔,但比起以前这真的没有什么。我想,是否使用更多的铁氧体磁珠,并把RTL SDR装在一个盒子里,它会完全安静的。

    希望这可以帮助到其他人,我很乐意听取各种意见。
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BG9ADQ:    节译:仅供参考!
    我开始阅读人们设计USB设备时,为减少电磁干扰,所涉及到的USB规格和技巧。对此问题,存在大量的信息和不同意见。通常,我发现的情况 .. (2014-01-13 11:33) 

重要的发现啊。
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在此之前我也做了降低RTL2832干扰的一些工作,我使用一节USB线缆,并在电源的正负线上面都串联了磁环,可惜没有成功,
由于我使用的那节子电缆实在是太细了,连接电脑后,RTL2832总是死机,但是我可以肯定的是,串联磁环,确实能降低干扰。
我也想过用USB隔离器来解决这个问题,但是我查了半天,有资料证明,目前的USB隔离器确实无法满足RTL2832的通讯能力,
也想用一个小的linux主机来带RTL2832,然后利用TCP访问,这个想法 在坛子里有人在做,

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非常好的建议