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780<781<7800所以还是买7800吧
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dear bg4iht,

ths is vr2sa as my chinese wiring is very slow and not so good and sorry for me to write you back as english.

first of all, ic-780 is the domestic version of ic-781, there is not much technical difference. ic-780 is having 100w tx power and while ic-781 is having 150w.

as the design of ic-780 is rather old - over 20 years or more. the best part of ic-780 is the spectrum display for the incoming rx signal, but this also the source of the problem as the crt display generate some kind of unexpected noise back to rx board. that is the reason why the ic-780 crt part is having the very isolated screened apartment for the crt whole portion.

i do have ic-781 and ft-1000d and also ts-950sdx. for easy operation, ts-950sdx is the best, also for the ssb and fm voice quality. but for cw. ft-1000d is the king. ic-780 or ic-781 is having good balance for both ssb and cw, however for the selection of filters for ssb and cw, the desing for ic-781 is the worst one, the best is ts-950sdx and ft-1000d is reasonable.

however pls do not forget that ic-781 is the very very old design radio however, at that old days, ic-781 should be the star as the availiablity of spectrum display option.

i highly recommend not to take ic-781 as your first radio as the radio is too compiacted to operate and it a take a bit of time to get use to the knobs and keys. money is also the issue. all second hand ic-780 or ic-781 in the world market would be over 10 to 15 years old and price is not cheap as well. ic-780 or ic-781 may have some minor problem for the pll and the psu. for psu problem, it is mainly caused by the design for ic-780 or ic-781 psu is to operate 110vac only, not for for 220vac. for 220vac operation, it will get very hot - over 50 degree celcius in the tx for long hrs

actually i do not operate ic-781 much as i am more familiar to ts-950sdx as this is my first radio over 10 year already !

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非常感谢您,ft-1000我有一台,不错,现想请教ts-950sdx性能,有朋友讲故障率高一点,是真的吗?前些日子差点买回家,谢谢,请介绍一下950sdx.
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只看该作者 4楼 发表于: 2005-05-28
准备来台装满滤波器的ts-950sdx玩玩.健伍的短波还没玩过任何一款呢.
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dear bg4iht,

as compared to ft-1000d, ic-780 and ts-950sdx, ts-950sdx is having the biggest background noise that make you very difficult to receive the weak dx signal.

however as i said, the operation features, filter selction - ts-950sdx is the best - most versatile - you can select any bandwidth in both 8.83mhz and 455khz if if you installed all 8 optional filters.

for fm, ts-950sdx is the best among ft-1000d and ic-780. the most quite one is ft-1000d ( if compared to ic-7800, then ic-7800 is minimum 3 to 4 db quieter as i did one a/b comparison in guangdong ham qth with ic-7800 and ft-1000d already)  

display is quite colourful and not too much fan noise and the heat disspiation is quite low.

but i did have one terrible experience that i try to tx without the antenna tunner on line and it burn the whole pa module and make ts-950sdx down for half year as it is quite expensive to let it repaired by kenwood hk. i bought all the parts form both japan and usa, the total fixing cost is about hkd 1,000- but the total service time is over six month !

same as ft-1000d, it can have the true sub-receiver but it should be same as the main receiver band - such as if main band is 10m, then the sub band is also 10m. but for ft-1000d, then the sub-receiver can be any band - 160m, 80m or 10m all ok.

some hams said that the ts-950sdx can not for full qsk keying, as the switching delay is having some minor problem. since for me, i do not work much for cw, then qsk problem does not harm me so much !

anyway if compared only three radio, ft-1000d, ic-780 and ts-950sdx, the background noise, ft-1000d is the lowest, then is ic-780 and the last one is ts-950sdx. but for convenient operation, ts-950sdx is the best, second is ft-1000d, the last one is ic-780. but if for chasing the near bu dx cluster, then ic-780 is the best as it installed the spectrum display ! similar like ic-7800, ic-756 pro etc

the second hand of ts-950sdx is not difficult to found, but if you want to installed all 8 filters, it may be quite difficult as some filters stop production for long time. for me, i take more than 3 to 4 years to buy all 8 filters !

the ts-950sdx is the best match with the sm-230 monitor scope ! i just have one also. i also have tl-922, sp-950, sw-2100, mc-90 and mc-60. they sit together like the ts-950sdx promotion catalog ! sometimes i just want to take one photo and compaed to the catalog and try to find some difference. the collection for all items for ts-950sdx make me to take more than 10 years to finish !
 

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do not need this machine without carrying on dx
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dear bg4ihr and adsl,

i think i am not the most appropiate person to comment too much for ic-780 as i am not very familiar to this radio - first i own the ic-781 for several month only. second, hf radio that i use most often is ft-1000d and ts-950sdx for the last few year.

perhaps after i use ic-781 more in the coming days, then i can have better understanding of this radio and give ic-781 a more precise comment later.

73 to all of you !

hope to have eye-ball qso in the near future !


rgds
alfred kwok vr2sa