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离线BG7IBQ
 
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用了48位可调电感 ,加1.2米中部加感拉杆天线
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离线radiolee
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比较关心那个旋转开关的价格...
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比较关心那个旋转开关的价格...
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一个字,贵
离线BG7IBQ
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还有几张

那两个柱子是想用来接长线天线的

下面那个是巴伦合,里面想要装用两个ft50-43的磁环做的1:4 巴伦

不知ft50-43能承受的功率有多大?

我现在最大以输出的功率是100w

巴伦合准备安装 这个天线用 http://www.hellocq.net/forum/showthread-t-156125.一款易于架设的4波段windom天线.html
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离线radiolee
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赶上直播了..

两个字: 多贵?
离线BA4IO
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前排看直播...
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我也曾经做了一个这样的,结果没做完丢了,找不到了。那磁环还是一个长期隐身的ba第一次去他家时候送的,最不好意思的就是还把人家呼号给忘记了。
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赶上直播了..
两个字: 多贵?
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35元
离线BG4RID
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很好!!!
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ibq,有无1.5米长得拉杆啊


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ibq,有无1.5米长得拉杆啊
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1.5 米的找不到,以前在广州解放北路有买过几条,但是商铺的卡片不见了……

要不就可以订一些回来用……
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1.5 米的找不到,以前在广州解放北路有买过几条,但是商铺的卡片不见了……
要不就可以订一些回来用……
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去过那边,找过好几次,但就是没有1.5米的。
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只看该作者 12楼 发表于: 2008-05-13
便携不错。。。。。。 但是817最郁闷的就是天线也便携,以至于让人觉得他通联效果不好,功率不够用,唉。
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原来甘多人想要1.5m得拉杆啊,lp又是想做50mhz得天线啊?



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天线 做好 了 吗 ,效果 怎么样?
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支持!就是这意思!







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musings on the miracle whip design




a front view of the finished design.




introduction
the 'miracle whip' design is of interest to people wishing to have a small footprint portable setup. however, looking at the original design published in qst in 2001, it is clear that the rheostat auto transformer design, while innovative, is a stumbling block to home construction of the antenna. it is also self evident that it is difficult to build since the commercial design uses an entirely different approach.

as i said, the autotransformer approach to matching the short whip to the transmitter is innovative, if not original. i looked at this concept and decided that it could be mechanically simplified if the user was to accept two controls, one for coarse tuning, the other for fine tuning. this is the basis of the modified design presented here.

rather than building a transformer with a tap at each turn, this design relies on a transformer which has one tap per turn for the first four turns, a tap every fourth turn for forty-eight turns and then another four turns tapped each turn. the coarse 12 pole tuning switch is connected to the twelve four turn taps. for the fine tuning a dual ganged 4 pole switch is connected to both the top and the bottom tapped sections.

the design should be easy to duplicate, i have used no specialist parts and takes about an afternoon to put together. the cost, in the uk, was around £10 with components purchased from maplin, and could be less if you have a well stocked junk box!

schematic


the twelve position switch on the lefthand side sets the coarse tuning and
the ganged switch on the righthand side provides the fine tuning


what you will need
    1.31 metre (50 inch) telescopic whip antenna
    rubber grommet to suit whip
    project box 143l by 82w by 44h
    12 pole 1 way rotary switch
    4 pole 3 way rotary switch
    f114-61 toroid
    1.3 metres of 24 swg copper wire
    small sheet of fibreglass pcb material
    bnc connector, chassis mounting
    m4 screw to fit whip
    knobs to fit switches

construction



this picture shows the inside of the whip, this the unit lying on its side.
in the bottom lefthand corner is the coarse tuning switch with the toroid mounted on top.
in the centre is the fine tuning switch and to the right is the bnc connector.
also note the use of pcb material for a baseplate.

the toroid




this picture shows a closeup of the toroid with the taps clearly visible


the toroid is wound on an f114-61 core, winding it is a little time consuming and also tough on the fingers. you will need about four feet of copper wire, i used 24 swg. i have found that is is best to fold the wire in half and start at the centre of the winding. this gives a shorter length of wire to handle, but makes it more difficult to keep track of the turns!

the toroid should have a total of 56 turns once you have finished. there should be a tap after the first, second and third turns, then a tap every four turns until you have made twelve four turn taps and then a further four turns with a tap each turn. it is best if the first and last four taps come out radially from the toroid and the twelve taps for the coarse tuning from the top, as shown in the picture above.



the toroid mounted on the coarse tuning switch.
note the radial taps in the bottom lefthand corner.



the next job is to solder the toroid to the coarse tuning switch, once finished, it should look similar to the picture above.

mounting the whip




the bottom of the whip mounted onto the pcb material
note that the copper is cut around the screw hole to prevent a short to ground.

the whip i used required an m4 mounting screw which i soldered to a piece of pcb material. i used the edge of a file to clear the copper around the mounting point to prevent a short to ground, this is clearly visible in the picture above. at the top of the case (not shown), i drilled a hole for the whip and used a rubber grommet for neatness.


putting it together
i have not gone into the finer details of drilling and mounting the switches or the bnc connector. from the pictures you can get an idea of the positioning, but i will leave it to you to fine tune the ergomonics of your copy of the design! once the hardware is bolted down, connect up the remaining connections with hookup wire.

operation
operating this design is similar to the original 'miracle whip' design. once you have selected the band on the ft817, set the fine tuning control to position two or three and rotate the coarse tuning control to achieve the highest background noise, or the strongest signal if you are listening to a station. next key the rig and use the fine tune control to achieve the lowest swr. you may find it is necessary to move the coarse tuning a position either way to optimise the swr reading. once you have the lowest swr, note down the settings so that you can quickly qsy to the band again.

it is important to note that this design is only suitable for power levels up to about 10 watts.

performance
the whip described here will tune up to a respectable swr on 40 metres and up.

much has been said about the performance of the 'miracle whip' design, but at the end of the day a 48 inch whip is going to be hard pressed to beat most other antennas. my experience is that it does not come close to the performance of the loop antenna's to be found on this site. however, when the bands are in good shape you will make qso's. during the testing of the design, i work an ok1 on 15 metres (a distance of about 700 miles) for a 439 report, i gave him 559 in exchange. we were both running 5 watts qrp. later, on 30 metres, i worked a pa3 who gave me 449 to his 589, again both qrp.

if you have any questions, suggestions or good experiences with the antenna, drop me an email, i will be interested to hear your successes.
离线BG4RID
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为什么一定要用波段开关?我想买一个大号电位器拆开,把轴和动臂架在磁环上的线圈上,如同环形调压变压器那样儿的结构,不是体积更小调节更精确吗?
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为什么一定要用波段开关?我想买一个大号电位器拆开,把轴和动臂架在磁环上的线圈上,如同环形调压变压器那样儿的结构,不是体积更小调节更精确吗?
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正是我想做的,“大号电位器”真是好主意。
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为什么一定要用波段开关?我想买一个大号电位器拆开,把轴和动臂架在磁环上的线圈上,如同环形调压变压器那样儿的结构,不是体积更小调节更精确吗?
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无级的最好!