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离线BH1IEO
 
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只看楼主 倒序阅读 0楼 发表于: 2011-10-08
收到第四期会刊一直没仔细看,刚刚拜读了一篇文章《玩转echolink》这对四级火腿来说是一个新的玩法,心里不是滋味。

首先echolink这个以无线电借鉴结合互联网模式通联早在2002年就开始在世界推广了。中国火腿应该是在2002年10月就开始接触这个新鲜事物,但受到互联网和一些政策的影响,始终只是极少数朋友在使用。记得是在2007年初被国内友台汉化后掀起了一阵互联网电台热潮,但热情过后仍然是一片寂静。此间不少朋友都在分析原因,有的说这不是真正的无线电模式,政策上是不准许,有的说是语言障碍,还有人说了没了互联网你们玩个屁等等。不管怎样,本人自从接触了这套软件,应用起来感触颇深。但也出现过违规被echolink总部永久关闭使用权的发生。回头看看,通过这几年玩这套软件,我个人认识了国内外不少志同道合的火腿朋友,大家有时间就相聚在一起聊一些无线电上的问题,这里面你是学生也是老师,低廉成本通联乐在其中。看到国外火腿朋友能通过这个模式守听空间站对地通联,我们又在干什么?

今天发此文字的意思就是说,会刊标题(不管是作者还是编辑所为)很是伤众,什么四级火腿的新玩法?难道123级火腿就能玩转和了解echolink研发的初衷吗?有几位123级火腿遇到老外能对答如流?四级火腿的新玩法!我的理解就是假如你是四级火腿没有能力通过合法频率短波通联得到卡片升级,就可以用这个模式得到卡片升级!

可能言辞上有不妥之处,但这是我个人的真实表达。最后还是但愿我们国内的无线电领域多出现自己的特色和自己的创新,总是跟着别人的后面走,很是不舒服。少一些争执,多一些包容和关爱吧。
离线BG4WIP
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只看该作者 1楼 发表于: 2011-10-08
心很受伤--中国的无线电协会真是太古板了--
离线BG2VCO
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果断留名....
离线BG3FRW
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只看该作者 3楼 发表于: 2011-10-08
哎呦。。。。。。。。。才写出这个呀?
不做任何评论。。。。。玩自己的@@哇咔咔
离线BG4GQV
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只看该作者 4楼 发表于: 2011-10-11
趁着国庆假期比较了hf/uv/echolink之间的通联效果,确实echolink做到了干净清晰的通联效果。本来以为短波段的火腿受过协会的教育和考核,应该能更自律一些,但是还是让我很失望,掐台,大功率违规发射的现象一点都不亚于uv段。这个除了让人看笑话之外对业余无线电运动的发展毫无益处。建议协会大力推广echolink通联,至少在echolink通联出现违规现象是有制约的手段和方法,能更好的净化火腿的素质。
离线BD4XI
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只看该作者 5楼 发表于: 2011-10-11
强帖 留名
离线BD7RL
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只看该作者 6楼 发表于: 2011-10-12
要语音清晰可以打电话撒
离线BH1IEO
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只看该作者 7楼 发表于: 2011-10-13
给我打一下看看。 我们谈论的干净是(规范和素质)不是话音质量。
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只看该作者 8楼 发表于: 2011-10-15
这个不是靠几个就要以发展起来的,需要一群人,需要很多的政策上的支持,中国ham的素质已经无法扭转了。但大部分人是好的。
离线BH1DIY
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只看该作者 9楼 发表于: 2011-10-17
好久不看会看,眼不见心不烦
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只看该作者 10楼 发表于: 2011-10-18
uv=工具,平常出门几个车走各车队啊,爬山啊,几个人在不同的地点干活啊,手台能够上的,挺方便。
hf=业余无线电爱好者qso范畴,利用电台和天线通联更多更远的电台。
echolink=大聊天室,在干净环境管理上比uv好的不是一星半点。但是没有uv爬山、走车队这种利用的便携性。

业余无线电有很多玩法和圈子,ba1aa童老师的书上早有定论,聊天派、qso派(dxer)、diy派、小功率派(qrp)等等,谁也不能一棍子把谁拍死,都是玩,各得其乐,我觉得ieo大大可能是多心了,我觉得笔者只是想说4级火腿相对来说的一种新玩法,并不是说echolink只能四级玩,或者一级火腿就对echolink了如指掌了,毕竟大伙玩业余无线电的目的不一样啊!

消消气,都是浮云,乐呵乐呵得了。
离线BH1IEO
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只看该作者 11楼 发表于: 2011-10-18
不是多心,看着这样写不舒服。
看看这个便携不,这是在车队和现场应用的。

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/crsbc8towty/
离线BD7RL
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只看该作者 12楼 发表于: 2011-10-19
无线电传播是平等的,在频率上没有谁管谁的权限区别,大家不是要民主么?这个是最民主了。

网络通讯无论如何总是有管理的,至少网管可以t人,咋的了,还是管管才可以提高素质?
离线BH1IEO
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只看该作者 13楼 发表于: 2011-10-19
为了民主,一些部门尽快关门。
离线曾经拥有
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只看该作者 14楼 发表于: 2011-10-19
楼主师兄坚持不懈的在echolink和卫星通信上努力推广,俺灰常佩服,也希望大家都能正确理解echolink,多一种玩法也是很有意义的。
离线BH1IEO
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只看该作者 15楼 发表于: 2011-11-22
第四期会刊发表后,注册量猛增,但被和谐掉的也不少。为什么?原因是文章里不谈如何规范应用,规矩不遵守造成大量友台被和谐掉,这给b字头造成了很不好的负面影响。


以下是echolink相关规矩:

the following guidelines are followed for all stations requesting access to the echolinkreg; system. these guidelines have been established to help ensure legal, courteous enjoyment of the system by every station. every effort is made to apply these policies universally and fairly.

although echolink is offered free of charge, please keep in mind that it is a privately-operated system. all echolink users are guests on the system, and are being permitted the use of it in exchange for following these guidelines.

1.access is granted only to licensed amateur radio operators holding a cept class 2 license, or equivalent. each new user must provide proof of license before access is granted, using any of several available validation methods. please see authentication and validation documents for more information.

2.no "swl" (listen-only) access is permitted. echolink is a two-way system by design, and there is no mechanism to validate listen-only stations.

3.sysop validations (i.e. -l/-r suffixes) are granted only to licensees whose class of license permits operation of an internet voice gateway. however, it is the licensee's responsibility to ensure that any additional permits or authorizations are obtained if required by the governing authorities.

4.stations operating in sysop mode may interconnect echolink only with equipment operating on amateur frequencies. echolink does not permit use of the system with other services such as gmrs, frs, or mars. for security reasons, it is also not permitted to interconnect echolink with other voip systems that support direct access from a computer.

5.stations which use the system are expected to abide by common courtesy and generally-accepted operating practices. access privileges will be withdrawn for stations which operate with malicious intent, blatant disregard for international amateur radio regulations, or impersonation of another station.

6.when based upon complaints from several other users, repeated incidents of rude, threatening, or vulgar remarks from a particular station will not be tolerated, and is considered grounds for withdrawal of access privileges. this policy applies to any transmissions from a station, including those received over an rf link. rude or threatening remarks directed at members of the volunteer support team will also not be tolerated.

7.once validated, a station must not share or "lend" its password to another station, particularly to an individual who is not licensed. in addition, any user who tries to present forged documents for validation, or documents obtained without permission, will be permanently barred.
8.please use only your permanent, fixed-station callsign to log in. avoid using portable designators (e.g., k1rfd/2 or py2/k1rfd), or temporary, special-event, or commemorative callsigns; these callsigns will not be validated. this helps keep the callsign database to a manageable size.

9.if you hold multiple callsigns, please request validation of only one callsign for echolink. as a rule, we will not validate more than one basic callsign per user in single-user mode. this holds true even if you travel from one country to another and hold callsigns in each country -- please use only one callsign with echolink, even while traveling.

10.the "addressing servers" are designed to be accessed by echolink software only. for the sake of system security and stability, any other access requires the permission of the server administrator. as a matter of security, in no event should the ip addresses (or internet hostnames) of logged-in stations be displayed to anyone who is not a validated, logged-in user.

11.although every effort will be made to apply these policies universally and fairly, the echolink support staff reserves the right to withdraw a station's access privileges at any time, without notice. echolink is a privately owned and operated system that has no connection with, and is not governed by, any radio licensing authority.